Comments on: McKenna’s dual world mania http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2006/09/mckennas-dual-world-mania/ Ecological crisis and archaeologies of consciousness Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:40:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gyrus http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2006/09/mckennas-dual-world-mania/comment-page-1/#comment-190 Gyrus Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:48:28 +0000 http://dreamflesh.com/archives/2006/09/mckennas-dual-world-mania/#comment-190 Yeah, it's interesting at least in terms of the fantasy of what a culture built on process-oriented philosophy and embrace of altered states might be like. I found it fun and useful to follow the story as I listened to it with a willing suspension of disbelief, allowing the full impact of the fantasy to sink in. You can pick it apart quite easily with logic afterwards, but if you do that from the start you miss out on having that clear, resonant fantasy image. I guess there's a tendency in our culture to occupy polar positions, and many of us sit in the analytic mode and assume any deviation involves irreversible, uncontrollable engulfment by fantasy. Well, having people like von Däniken around does nothing to counter that! And I wonder if that fact that I don't read fiction much these days means I manage better in flexing those suspension of disbelief muscles in other areas? :-) Yeah, it’s interesting at least in terms of the fantasy of what a culture built on process-oriented philosophy and embrace of altered states might be like. I found it fun and useful to follow the story as I listened to it with a willing suspension of disbelief, allowing the full impact of the fantasy to sink in. You can pick it apart quite easily with logic afterwards, but if you do that from the start you miss out on having that clear, resonant fantasy image. I guess there’s a tendency in our culture to occupy polar positions, and many of us sit in the analytic mode and assume any deviation involves irreversible, uncontrollable engulfment by fantasy.

Well, having people like von Däniken around does nothing to counter that! And I wonder if that fact that I don’t read fiction much these days means I manage better in flexing those suspension of disbelief muscles in other areas? :-)

]]> By: Stel http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2006/09/mckennas-dual-world-mania/comment-page-1/#comment-189 Stel Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:08:03 +0000 http://dreamflesh.com/archives/2006/09/mckennas-dual-world-mania/#comment-189 This is very interesting. I'd swear I've seen something like that in Star Trek, on more than one occasion, hehe. Anyways, the scientific explanation politely ignores certain properties of quantum world where time is not quite as linear as we tend to perceive it. I mean there is also the "Many Worlds" theory (being replaced with decoherence) in which multiple time streams is nothing new, so I don't see any reason for having a mania over it. Ah, Terence, Terence. The "gnostic" explanation. Uh, where to begin? Either Terence read books of that con-artist, deceiver and fraudulent Eric Julien, or Eric Julien talked to Terrence, or both Terence and Eric decided to push this nonsense together. Except in Julien's delusions, the UFOs are not from another-dimension-Earth. Again, nothing new. Ah, Terence, Terence. All we need more is Hoagland with his hyperdimensional inanity and Wilcock with contradictory Consciousness Units and the (stolen) Law of One, mish-mashed all together into Unified Theory of 21st Century Science Fiction. Directed by Z. Sitchin, executive producer Däniken. Special effects by Tom Bearden. I admit, though, I do like the idea of a World free of Christians, evolving from combination of Greek and Mayan culture and technology. We'd be colonizing other stars by 2012. This is very interesting. I’d swear I’ve seen something like that in Star Trek, on more than one occasion, hehe.

Anyways, the scientific explanation politely ignores certain properties of quantum world where time is not quite as linear as we tend to perceive it. I mean there is also the “Many Worlds” theory (being replaced with decoherence) in which multiple time streams is nothing new, so I don’t see any reason for having a mania over it. Ah, Terence, Terence.

The “gnostic” explanation. Uh, where to begin? Either Terence read books of that con-artist, deceiver and fraudulent Eric Julien, or Eric Julien talked to Terrence, or both Terence and Eric decided to push this nonsense together. Except in Julien’s delusions, the UFOs are not from another-dimension-Earth. Again, nothing new. Ah, Terence, Terence.

All we need more is Hoagland with his hyperdimensional inanity and Wilcock with contradictory Consciousness Units and the (stolen) Law of One, mish-mashed all together into Unified Theory of 21st Century Science Fiction. Directed by Z. Sitchin, executive producer Däniken. Special effects by Tom Bearden.

I admit, though, I do like the idea of a World free of Christians, evolving from combination of Greek and Mayan culture and technology. We’d be colonizing other stars by 2012.

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