Comments on: War & the Noble Savage http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2009/10/war-the-noble-savage/ Ecological crisis and archaeologies of consciousness Sat, 05 May 2012 11:06:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Guy http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2009/10/war-the-noble-savage/comment-page-1/#comment-9204 Guy Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:13:59 +0000 http://dreamflesh.com/?p=786#comment-9204 Just wanted to say thanks for posting the screencast of your talk on the 'Noble Savage'- very interesting and enlightening! Just wanted to say thanks for posting the screencast of your talk on the ‘Noble Savage’- very interesting and enlightening!

]]> By: Gyrus http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2009/10/war-the-noble-savage/comment-page-1/#comment-9158 Gyrus Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:29:08 +0000 http://dreamflesh.com/?p=786#comment-9158 I don't think you can go as far as saying that Pinker and Keeley are causing the destruction of the web of life! There's no irony there. They're not at all sinister in their views of indigenous people---it's just that their arguments are slanted and distorted in ways that can unwittingly support more sinister views. Among other things, studying this has taught me that (1) the issue of current Western views of archaic and indigenous peoples---unlike the issue of whether or not we should have slaughtered them---is very complex, and (2) you really have to read what people are saying before you lay into them. Properly read them, with an open heart as well as an acute mind. You can see how Pinker and Keeley aren't out-and-out adversaries in my reviews of their books---check out my list of <a href="/projects/war-noble-savage/#related" rel="nofollow">related material</a>. I don’t think you can go as far as saying that Pinker and Keeley are causing the destruction of the web of life! There’s no irony there. They’re not at all sinister in their views of indigenous people—it’s just that their arguments are slanted and distorted in ways that can unwittingly support more sinister views.

Among other things, studying this has taught me that (1) the issue of current Western views of archaic and indigenous peoples—unlike the issue of whether or not we should have slaughtered them—is very complex, and (2) you really have to read what people are saying before you lay into them. Properly read them, with an open heart as well as an acute mind. You can see how Pinker and Keeley aren’t out-and-out adversaries in my reviews of their books—check out my list of related material.

]]> By: MU http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2009/10/war-the-noble-savage/comment-page-1/#comment-9157 MU Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:37:49 +0000 http://dreamflesh.com/?p=786#comment-9157 About the 'noble savage revisionism' OK, I haven't read the book, or your essay, but feel the need to say this: Isn't it ironic that it is the 'sons' of the genocidal invaders of indigenous peoples, and the ones who have causing the very destruction of the Web of Life, who are 'scholarly' presenting this 'resounding no'??! About the ‘noble savage revisionism’

OK, I haven’t read the book, or your essay, but feel the need to say this:
Isn’t it ironic that it is the ‘sons’ of the genocidal invaders of indigenous peoples, and the ones who have causing the very destruction of the Web of Life, who are ‘scholarly’ presenting this ‘resounding no’??!

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