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	<description>Ecological crisis and archaeologies of consciousness</description>
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		<title>Comment on Light raining down by Juliano</title>
		<link>http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2010/03/light-raining-down/comment-page-1/#comment-9330</link>
		<dc:creator>Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder-falls</description>
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		<title>Comment on Dream conference in The Netherlands by Ryan</title>
		<link>http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2010/02/dream-conference-netherlands/comment-page-1/#comment-9317</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m hoping to go too!  

one correction: in 2008, the IASD conference was in Montreal. Still in the new world, but it was robustly international in attendance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hoping to go too!  </p>
<p>one correction: in 2008, the IASD conference was in Montreal. Still in the new world, but it was robustly international in attendance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Magic P-Orridge by Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh that&#039;s nice. Not met that quote before. Am tweeting this post now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh that&#8217;s nice. Not met that quote before. Am tweeting this post now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On nihilism and enthusiasm by Gyrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re opening &quot;I don&#039;t agree&quot; should have been &quot;I&#039;ve got some interesting extra information&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re opening &#8220;I don&#8217;t agree&#8221; should have been &#8220;I&#8217;ve got some interesting extra information&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>Comment on On nihilism and enthusiasm by Juliano</title>
		<link>http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2010/02/nihilism-enthusiasm/comment-page-1/#comment-9289</link>
		<dc:creator>Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I don&#039;t agree. When I hear the term &#039;enthusiasm&#039; is straightaway tells me its connection with the very Greek term it is translation from enthousiasmos, and its main definition of &quot; Ecstasy arising from supposed possession by a god.&quot; And we know this means *eating* the &#039;god&#039;, the entheogen, and enthusiams has been translated as &#039;possession&#039;/being possessed by the god
And for those of us who have had psychedelic experience, we know what we mean about being enthused....Your eyes become the eyes of Medusa, as you draw in the magical energies and souls of sensual reality
N O T H I N G is insignifianct in that state of enthusiasm/possession even the shadows, so in that respect we agree then ;)~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I don&#8217;t agree. When I hear the term &#8216;enthusiasm&#8217; is straightaway tells me its connection with the very Greek term it is translation from enthousiasmos, and its main definition of &#8221; Ecstasy arising from supposed possession by a god.&#8221; And we know this means *eating* the &#8216;god&#8217;, the entheogen, and enthusiams has been translated as &#8216;possession&#8217;/being possessed by the god<br />
And for those of us who have had psychedelic experience, we know what we mean about being enthused&#8230;.Your eyes become the eyes of Medusa, as you draw in the magical energies and souls of sensual reality<br />
N O T H I N G is insignifianct in that state of enthusiasm/possession even the shadows, so in that respect we agree then ;)~</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pat Robertson voodoo doll by Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t waste energy on ridiculous fools.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The crass realities of Avatar by Merrick</title>
		<link>http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2010/01/crass-realities-avatar/comment-page-1/#comment-9276</link>
		<dc:creator>Merrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that, Gyrus. Personally i loved those one-liners about the only thing worse than looking bad for killing the indigenous is having a bad quarterly balance sheet.

On the &#039;killing the indigenous looks bad&#039;, it reminds me of something in corporate Watch&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://archive.corporatewatch.org/publications/corporate_structures.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Corporate Law and Structures&lt;/a&gt; report:

&lt;i&gt;For most people, economic values are secondary, and social and to a lesser extent environmental values come first: making money is good but only if it doesn’t conflict with believing it’s wrong to murder, steal or cut down virgin rainforest.

For the corporate ‘environmentalist’, profit is absolute, social and environmental values are relative: their first aim is to make as much money as possible, but given two ways to make that money they choose the one that requires the least murder, blatant theft or environmental destruction. Then they pat themselves on the back for being so responsible.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, Gyrus. Personally i loved those one-liners about the only thing worse than looking bad for killing the indigenous is having a bad quarterly balance sheet.</p>
<p>On the &#8216;killing the indigenous looks bad&#8217;, it reminds me of something in corporate Watch&#8217;s <a href="http://archive.corporatewatch.org/publications/corporate_structures.pdf" >Corporate Law and Structures</a> report:</p>
<p><i>For most people, economic values are secondary, and social and to a lesser extent environmental values come first: making money is good but only if it doesn’t conflict with believing it’s wrong to murder, steal or cut down virgin rainforest.</p>
<p>For the corporate ‘environmentalist’, profit is absolute, social and environmental values are relative: their first aim is to make as much money as possible, but given two ways to make that money they choose the one that requires the least murder, blatant theft or environmental destruction. Then they pat themselves on the back for being so responsible.</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on Steve Beyer by Gyrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://davis.progressiveradionetwork.org/2009/12/31/expanding-mind--123109.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Erik Davis&#039; interview with Beyer&lt;/a&gt; too (some people are having problems with the login prompt that seem to pop up on that page---just cancel it). I listened to it last night and it got me really psyched (a very apt bit of slang!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do check out <a href="http://davis.progressiveradionetwork.org/2009/12/31/expanding-mind--123109.aspx" >Erik Davis&#8217; interview with Beyer</a> too (some people are having problems with the login prompt that seem to pop up on that page&#8212;just cancel it). I listened to it last night and it got me really psyched (a very apt bit of slang!).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steve Beyer by Phil</title>
		<link>http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2010/01/steve-beyer/comment-page-1/#comment-9274</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 06:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re spot on there Gyrus, Beyer&#039;s blog is awesome! It&#039;s really refreshing to see someone who moves beyond the seemingly endless recycling of assumptions relating to Jung, shamanism, drugs. Definitely one for the watch list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re spot on there Gyrus, Beyer&#8217;s blog is awesome! It&#8217;s really refreshing to see someone who moves beyond the seemingly endless recycling of assumptions relating to Jung, shamanism, drugs. Definitely one for the watch list.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steve Beyer by Juliano</title>
		<link>http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2010/01/steve-beyer/comment-page-1/#comment-9271</link>
		<dc:creator>Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O listened to the interview with Steve Beyer which I very much enjoyed, and because it didn&#039;t talk about &#039;shamanism&#039; with the common European romantic style, but --if I remember right--talked about the shamanistic cultures of the Upper Amazon as having a negative worldview where they view people as meaning to do harm, and liken this to the panther--predatory.
Jan Irvin also promotes serious researchers into &#039;shamanism&#039; to also be aware of the book &#039;Dark Shamans&#039; (Jan will be interviewing Steve Beyer in the near future at Gnostic podcasts)--It can be very chilling

And looking into this has personally inspired my research, and made me ask questions about, example, how we view psychedelics in this light.
I critically look at oriental belief systems--which are mostly anti-psychedelic (at least publically), as I do Judaic Christian Islamic, Magic, and shamanistic. I think this questioning is very important so as to encourage independent visions, insights</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O listened to the interview with Steve Beyer which I very much enjoyed, and because it didn&#8217;t talk about &#8217;shamanism&#8217; with the common European romantic style, but &#8211;if I remember right&#8211;talked about the shamanistic cultures of the Upper Amazon as having a negative worldview where they view people as meaning to do harm, and liken this to the panther&#8211;predatory.<br />
Jan Irvin also promotes serious researchers into &#8217;shamanism&#8217; to also be aware of the book &#8216;Dark Shamans&#8217; (Jan will be interviewing Steve Beyer in the near future at Gnostic podcasts)&#8211;It can be very chilling</p>
<p>And looking into this has personally inspired my research, and made me ask questions about, example, how we view psychedelics in this light.<br />
I critically look at oriental belief systems&#8211;which are mostly anti-psychedelic (at least publically), as I do Judaic Christian Islamic, Magic, and shamanistic. I think this questioning is very important so as to encourage independent visions, insights</p>
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