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		<title>Murdoch and the Aborigines</title>
		<link>http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2011/07/murdoch-and-the-aborigines/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CC licensed image by David Shankbone The phone hacking scandal in the UK is moving quickly. Senior media and police resign, and the storm starts gathering around Downing Street. The immorality of the gutter press is shocking but unsurprising; their illegal dealings with the police is likewise no news to anyone half-awake. The fact that [...]]]></description>
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<p>The phone hacking scandal in the UK is moving quickly. Senior media and police resign, and the storm starts gathering around Downing Street. The immorality of the gutter press is shocking but unsurprising; their illegal dealings with the police is likewise no news to anyone half-awake. The fact that it&#8217;s all been aired in public at last, with some genuine repercussions, seems astonishing. What&#8217;s happening seems somehow far more important than a general election in terms of shaping the political landscape of this country.</p>
<p>But John Pilger reminds us that <a href="http://www.johnpilger.com/articles/how-the-murdoch-press-keeps-australia-s-dirty-secret">a far greater Murdoch scandal</a> remains mostly hidden Down Under:</p>
<blockquote><p>The most enduring and insidious Murdoch campaign has been against the Aboriginal people, who were dispossessed by the arrival of the British in the late 18th century and have never been allowed to recover. “Nigger hunts” continued into the 1960s and beyond. The officially-inspired theft of children from Aboriginal families, justified by the racist theories of the eugenics movement, produced those known as the Stolen Generation and in 1997 was identified as genocide. Today, the first Australians have the shortest life expectancy of any of the world&#8217;s 90 indigenous peoples. Australia imprisons Aborigines at five times the rate South Africa during the apartheid years. In the state of Western Australia, the figure is eight times the apartheid rate.</p>
<p>Political power in Australia often rests in the control of resource-rich land. Most of the uranium, iron ore, gold, oil and natural gas is in Western Australia and Northern Territory&#8212;on Aboriginal land.  Indeed, Aboriginal &#8220;progress&#8221; is all but defined by the mining industry and its political guardians in both Labor and coalition (conservative) governments. Their faithful, strident voice is the Murdoch press. The exceptional, reformist Labor government of Gough Whitlam in the 1970s set up a royal commission that made clear that social justice for Australia’s first people would only be achieved with universal land rights and a share the national wealth with dignity. In 1975, Whitlam was sacked by the governor-general in a &#8220;constitutional coup&#8221;. The Murdoch press had turned on Whitlam with such venom that rebellious journalists on The Australian burned their newspaper in the street. [...]</p>
<p>Using the language of its soulmate the London Sun, the Australian derides the &#8220;abstract debate&#8221; of &#8220;land rights, apologies, treaties&#8221; as a &#8220;moralizing mumbo-jumbo spreading like a virus&#8221;. The aim is to silence those who dare tell Australia&#8217;s dirty secret.</p>
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<p>Read the full article <a href="http://www.johnpilger.com/articles/how-the-murdoch-press-keeps-australia-s-dirty-secret">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Forthcoming polar cosmology book</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My current main writing project, a book on the history of cosmological fantasies and realities from the perspective of the polar axis, is well underway. Naturally I&#8217;ll post updates here as publication approaches (early 2012 a good estimate), but I&#8217;ve also kicked off a website for the project with a sign-up for a special mailing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My current main writing project, a book on the history of cosmological fantasies and realities from the perspective of the polar axis, is well underway.</p>
<p>Naturally I&#8217;ll post updates here as publication approaches (early 2012 a good estimate), but I&#8217;ve also kicked off a website for the project with a sign-up for a special mailing list dedicated to the book. The book&#8217;s title isn&#8217;t confirmed, but the site is named with rough aptness &#8216;<a href="http://polarcosmology.com/">Polar Cosmology</a>&#8216;.</p>
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		<title>October Gallery talk media</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The talk on War &#038; the Noble Savage at the October Gallery this Tuesday just gone went pretty well. Some of the questions certainly picked up on blindspots in my presentation of my research, and I&#8217;m hoping I&#8217;ll find time soon to blog about these interesting sub-topics. For now, I&#8217;m glad to offer everyone who [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The talk on War &#038; the Noble Savage at the October Gallery this Tuesday just gone went pretty well. Some of the questions certainly picked up on blindspots in my presentation of my research, and I&#8217;m hoping I&#8217;ll find time soon to blog about these interesting sub-topics.</p>
<p>For now, I&#8217;m glad to offer everyone who couldn&#8217;t make it both an <a href="http://dreamflesh.com/audio/2009-10-27-war-noble-savage-gyrus.mp3">MP3 download</a> of the talk (with thanks to Mark Pilkington for tech duties), and <a href="/projects/war-noble-savage/#slidecast">a slidecast</a>. This is a version of the slideshow I did, synched with the audio recording&#8212;which has come out pretty well.</p>
<p>If anyone&#8217;s interested in me doing this presentation in their neighbourhood, or in doing an interview on the subject, do <a href="/contact/">get in touch</a>.</p>
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		<title>War &amp; the Noble Savage</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At first it was a part of a talk given early this year at Metageum in London. Then I thought I&#8217;d develop it into an essay. Then it seemed long enough to print as a nice pamphlet. It&#8217;s ended up being a slim book. It&#8217;s my effort to analyze and contribute to the recent debates [...]]]></description>
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<p>At first it was a part of a talk given early this year at Metageum in London. Then I thought I&#8217;d develop it into an essay. Then it seemed long enough to print as a nice pamphlet. It&#8217;s ended up being a slim book.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my effort to analyze and contribute to the recent debates about the &#8220;Noble Savage&#8221;. Are pre-civilized cultures more peaceful than we are? Do they live in greater harmony with the environment? Of late, people such as Steven Pinker, Lawrence Keeley and Steven LeBlanc, who aren&#8217;t overt bigots&#8212;indeed, who generally seem to be fine, well-meaning liberal folks&#8212;have been answering these questions with a resounding &#8220;no&#8221;. In <a href="/projects/war-noble-savage/"><i>War &#038; the Noble Savage</i></a> I&#8217;ve surveyed this recent literature, and tried to dig beneath the polarized surface of the debate using some less popularized anthropological and historical scholarship.</p>
<p>It went to the printers just today, and should be ready to send out by the end of next week. I&#8217;m taking pre-orders now if anyone wants to <a href="/projects/war-noble-savage/">dive in</a>. (Please note that I&#8217;ve also revamped my PayPal integration, and I&#8217;ve included options to buy different Dreamflesh publications together and save money on postage.)</p>
<h2>October Gallery talk</h2>
<p>Coinciding with the release of the book, I&#8217;m pleased to have been invited to speak in the <a href="http://www.octobergallery.co.uk/events/index.shtml">October Gallery</a>&#8216;s &#8216;Ecology, Cosmos &#038; Consciousness&#8217; lecture series on Tuesday 27th October. For more details and booking information see the <a href="http://www.octobergallery.co.uk/events/index.shtml">October Gallery website</a>. I&#8217;ll be presenting the book&#8217;s main ideas there, and leaving plenty of time for discussion&#8212;please bring your questions and ideas along! Copies of the book will of course be on sale, at a specially reduced price.</p>
<h2>Review copies</h2>
<p>If anyone&#8217;s interested in reviewing this, please <a href="/contact/">get in touch</a>.</p>
<h2>Related material</h2>
<p>At the bottom of the book&#8217;s page you&#8217;ll find a compilation of <a href="/projects/war-noble-savage/#related">related material</a>&#8212;my book reviews and blog posts covering similar area, plus a collection of links to the websites, articles, and videos I drew on in my research.</p>
<h2>Feedback</h2>
<p>If anyone who reads the book wants to respond to anything in it or ask questions, please use the comments here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Metageum 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Coming up fast, over the last week of March, is the next Metageum conference. The last one was a fascinating event in Malta; this time, we&#8217;re in the slightly less megalith-rich, but hopefully more humanly hectic environs of London. ]]></description>
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<p>Coming up fast, over the last week of March, is the next <a href="http://www.metageum.org/">Metageum</a> conference. <a href="http://dreamflesh.com/blog/2007/11/metageum-round-up/">The last one</a> was a fascinating event in Malta; this time, we&#8217;re in the slightly less megalith-rich, but hopefully more humanly hectic environs of London. Specifically, at the ever-conducive venue, <a href="http://www.treadwells-london.com/">Treadwell&#8217;s</a>.</p>
<p>Speakers so far include Paul Devereux, Peter Lloyd, David Luke, Lydia Oukhaneva, Toni Perrott, Peter Knight, Donal Ruane and Deborah Marshall-Warren.</p>
<p>And me. I&#8217;m on March 28th at 1.30pm&#8212;<a href="http://www.metageum.org/">sign up</a> and I&#8217;ll see you there!</p>
<p>My talk has changed slightly from the blurb currently posted there. Here&#8217;s the latest version:</p>
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<h3>Darwin, Rock Art, and the Human Animal</h3>
<p>Commemorating this year&#8217;s double anniversary (of Darwin&#8217;s birth and the publication of <i>The Origin of Species</i>), this talk will delve into the complex influence of evolutionary theory on both the study of prehistoric rock art in particular, and modern attitudes to &#8220;primitive&#8221; man in general. From the surprising origins of the myth of &#8220;the noble savage&#8221; in Victorian ethnology to Stephen Pinker&#8217;s contentions about prehistoric violence; from Terence McKenna&#8217;s mycological speculations to recent archaeological controversies about shamans and visions. This will be a wide-ranging trip through our varying perspectives on the prehistoric mind, what it means to be an animal with imagination, and the bearing of these stories on the ecological crisis we find ourselves in.</p>
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		<title>The Animated World</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Photo by Caroline Forbes An Interview with Patrick Harpur by Gyrus Like many others, I was switched on to Patrick Harpur&#8216;s writings in the &#8217;90s through reading the subtly mind-blowing survey of Forteana and folklore, Daimonic Reality. Avoiding jargon, writing with vivid immediacy, he manages to bring immensely slippery concepts from the hidden traditions of [...]]]></description>
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<h1 class="sub">An Interview with Patrick Harpur</h1>
<p class="byline">by <a href="/about/gyrus/" title="Info about Gyrus.">Gyrus</a></p>
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<p>Like many others, I was switched on to <a href="http://www.harpur.org/patrick.htm">Patrick Harpur</a>&#8216;s writings in the &#8217;90s through reading the subtly mind-blowing survey of Forteana and folklore, <i>Daimonic Reality</i>. Avoiding jargon, writing with vivid immediacy, he manages to bring immensely slippery concepts from the hidden traditions of Western religion&#8212;alchemy, Neoplatonism, Hermeticism&#8212;to bear on the wondrous oddities, such as UFOs and crop circles, of the modern world. It&#8217;s hard to recommend a better guide to the significance of the field.</p>
<p>His follow-up <i>The Philosopher&#8217;s Secret Fire: A History of the Imagination</i> is a bold, entertaining and illuminating survey that widens the focus of <i>Daimonic Reality</i> to take in more on shamanism, folklore and the anthropology of myth, but also mythical perspectives on Darwinism and modern cosmology, and excellent histories of Hermetic magic and Romanticism.</p>
<p>Both these non-fiction gems followed in the wake of the novel <i>Mercurius</i>, declared by <i>The Literary Review</i> to be &#8220;the most explicit account of the alchemical art ever published.&#8221; This gripping tale, which weaves philosophical and psychological reflections together with a brilliantly observed tale of alchemical experimentation, has just been reissued by The Squeeze Press (<a href="/library/patrick-harpur/mercurius-the-marriage-of-heaven-and-earth/">read my review here</a>).</p>
<p>This interview, originally slated for <a href="/journal/"><i>Dreamflesh Journal</i></a>, was conducted via email during 2007. Patrick is currently working on <i>A Complete Guide to the Soul</i>, to be published by Rider in 2009.</p>
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<p class="int-question"><strong>Gyrus:</strong> The threefold division of &#8216;body, soul &#038; spirit&#8217;, as opposed to the dualistic mind/body model so common in our culture, seems central to your work. Could you sketch it briefly, and discuss how you feel &#8220;soul&#8221; has come to be distorted, misunderstood, or lost?</p>
<p><strong>Patrick:</strong> You&#8217;ve started with the hardest possible question! I&#8217;ve just jotted down 14 ways in which the word &#8216;soul&#8217; can be used, and there are many more. It&#8217;s impossible to define. But this flaw is also its strength. Like &#8216;God&#8217;, it&#8217;s a portmanteau word, &#8216;empty&#8217; in itself, yet taking on meaning in different contexts and in relation to other things.</p>
<p>Soul in relation to body likes to personify itself as Jung&#8217;s <i>anima</i>, for instance, or as the personal daimon whom Plato describes in his myth of the geezer called Er who returns from the dead at the end of <i>The Republic</i>.  It&#8217;s different from soul in relation to spirit, which is where I prefer to use the word as the Neoplatonists used it.  For them, soul was a whole realm intermediate between the spiritual or intelligible world (<i>nous</i>) and our own familiar sensory, material world.  It was <i>Anima Mundi</i>, the Soul of the World, wherein dwell the daimons who link us, as Socrates remarked, to the gods.</p>
<p>However, this all-pervading collective realm was paradoxical: it could also manifest individually, as individual souls&#8212;in other words, as us.  Since the chief faculty of soul is not reason but imagination, it likes to imagine itself in many different ways, cutting its cloth to suit the times.  Thus it re-imagines itself now as Imagination itself&#8212;a powerful autonomous realm beloved of the Romantics whence all the myths come&#8212;now as Jung&#8217;s collective unconscious.  It supplies the root metaphor for such modern re-inventions as the earth-spirit Gaia and Sheldrake&#8217;s morphogenetic field.</p>
<p>But, in another sense, soul and spirit can be thought of as  symbols of the two main perspectives through which we view the world&#8212;the two perspectives which create the world we see.  We experience them as a tension within ourselves between the spiritual longing for Oneness, unity, purity, light, transcendence etc. and the imaginative need to recognise Manyness, multiplicity, labyrinthine entanglement, darkness, immanence etc. It&#8217;s because, historically&#8212;ever since the Enlightenment&#8212;Western culture has emphasised the preeminence of &#8216;masculine&#8217; upward-striving Apollonian reason and science that I have tried to emphasise the neglected &#8216;soul&#8217; perspective which is dark, moon-struck, downward-spiralling and Hermetic or Dionysian&#8212;the Affirmative way of the artist, as the medieval mystics might have put it, instead of their own Negative way, which disdains and seeks to overcome the  images and myths which soul, willy-nilly, besieges us with and which we find so hard to free ourselves from in spiritual disciplines. The great ascents of the spirit into rareified mountain realms where the One dwells in blinding light can be read as a disastrous neglect, even repression, of the <i>Nekiya</i>&#8212;the underworld journey of the soul whose course is tortuous and mazy, moving towards darkness and death. That&#8217;s why, as far as any sort of gnosis goes, I prefer the soul&#8217;s way, death and resurrection, the painful initiatory dismembering of the shaman, to the rather unsexed and anodyne rebirth system of &#8216;spiritual&#8217; paths.</p>
<p>I prefer, as Jung says, wholeness to perfection.  That&#8217;s the short and incoherent answer to your question.</p>
<p class="int-question"><strong>Gyrus:</strong> I was quite surprised when I learned that James Hillman had travelled quite widely, in Asia and Africa&#8212;his work is so consciously rooted in, and confined to, the Western tradition. You&#8217;re steeped in the same tradition, from Greek antiquity, through the Neoplatonists, to the Romantics and depth psychology; but you also freely draw inferences from anthropology, from animist traditional cultures. Have your own experiences while travelling led to this influence?</p>
<p><strong>Patrick:</strong> Actually I&#8217;ve barely travelled at all&#8212;my daimon has always kept me tied to my desk, insisting that I travel metaphorically through the realm of imagination rather than literally&#8230;  So, no&#8212;my influences are all from books.  But I did hitch-hike round Africa with a mate in my gap year, when I was seventeen&#8212;when everyone else was travelling to India&#8212;and it did leave a deep impression on me.  I constantly wondered what was going on in the minds of the Biafran refugees, or the Cameroonian villagers or the Masai or the Bushmen or the Ethiopians and so on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still trying to find the perfect work of anthropology, as it were&#8212;the book which gets inside the mind of wholly different culture from my own; which imaginatively empathises with its tribe rather than applying &#8216;scientific&#8217; principles.  I mean, how can you trust an anthropologist who can&#8217;t study witchcraft properly because he doesn&#8217;t believe in its possibility?  I want anthropology to be like the works of Carlos Casteneda or that essay of Benjamin Whorf&#8217;s on the language of the Navajo or Saul Bellow&#8217;s <i>Henderson the Rain King</i>.</p>
<p class="int-question"><strong>Gyrus:</strong> How does the perception of deep problems in the &#8220;comparative&#8221; approach to religion and myth, exemplified by J.G. Frazer and Mircea Eliade, impact your thinking? What remaining value do you see in wide cross-cultural surveys of things like folklore and shamanism, the alleged dangers and past mistakes of this approach notwithstanding?</p>
<p><strong>Patrick:</strong> That&#8217;s very pertinent and difficult to answer. I laugh at the idea of this approach being &#8216;dangerous&#8217;&#8212;it&#8217;s often what academics often call ideas which contradict their own. Who&#8217;s in danger? What&#8217;s more dangerous is the modern presupposition that all cultures are isolated and opaque to each other, and so studies are confined to details and minutiae, without any attempt to draw wider inferences about how different cultures can be compared, and whether or not they share a common humanity.</p>
<p>But if you believe that humanity is informed by a common imagination whose autonomous products, the myths, are, as Ted Hughes says, &#8216;as alike as the lines on the palm of the hand&#8217;, you see that no myth is truly alien to us, no matter how outlandish it appears at first sight.  And if no myth is alien, no culture is.  And if the contents of the myths seem strange, then Lévi-Strauss&#8217;s structural approach has been very useful in showing how the mythopoeic imagination obeys certain archetypal rules&#8212;rules of symmetry and inversion, for example&#8212;which illuminate myths by showing how one story, which looks wholly different from its neighbour, is in fact a transformed version of that neighbouring tale.  This is how I hit upon the notion that the tall tales of modern science concerning black holes and dark matter and the abyss of space etc. are in fact only literalised versions of those Gnostic myths which were suppressed by orthodox Christianity 1500-odd years ago.</p>
<p>So, while I sometimes despair of ever understanding a single thing about another culture, I also rejoice in how much of that culture is in fact available to me through our common imaginative substrate. Incidentally, it was my elaboration of what I call &#8216;daimonic reality&#8217;&#8212;a version of Jung&#8217;s &#8216;psychic reality&#8217;&#8212;which proved the most useful tool in understanding that relationship with the world which &#8216;tribal&#8217; peoples seem universally to have, and which we Westerners used to have: a reality which lies between the literal and metaphorical, which has one foot in the Otherworld, which obeys Blake&#8217;s &#8216;double vision&#8217; (something shared by all artists), which is participatory rather than objective, and so on.  I&#8217;d call myself an animist if that weren&#8217;t already a rather insulting term for one who has a clear vision of how everything that is, is ensouled and participates in that great World-Soul whose images constitute the flagstones of reality which underlie this poor phenomenal world of ours.  And this is how &#8216;tribal&#8217; people see the world: they&#8217;re natural Neoplatonists.</p>
<p>And of course Eliade et al. may be wrong in certain details; but the impulse is, surely, invigorating and engaging in a way that most mythography and anthropology isn&#8217;t&#8212;we suffer loss of meaning, even a loss of soul as benighted primitives say, when we lack an overarching world-view, a sense of a bigger picture from which no culture is excluded, don&#8217;t we?  (Frazer was, by the way, very different from Eliade&#8212;he literalised one &#8216;solar hero&#8217; myth and sought to explain most other myths by recourse to it.  In this he was more like a Darwinist than a comparative mythographer).</p>
<p>While I appreciate the agonising of post-colonial, post-imperial, post-modern critics, I just can&#8217;t interest myself in it. It&#8217;s a fault, I know. But my deepest impulses are religious, I think. I&#8217;m a Christian, for instance; but I don&#8217;t like other Christians much. That&#8217;s why I was so happy to find my own people among the Christian Neoplatonists (who are also pagan!) such as the alchemists, the Renaissance magi, the Romantic poets. A religion or religious perspective, at once Christian and pagan, such as they held, seems just what&#8217;s needed in our times of Christian and Scientistic fundamentalism. I&#8217;d like to propagandise it more; but unfortunately it can&#8217;t of its nature be subjected to the tools of propaganda because it&#8217;s subtle, humorous, tricky etc, and has to be just <em>seen</em>, like a joke or a dream, to be grasped. It&#8217;s the opposite of fundamentalism because it sees the root metaphors or myths behind every belief, including itself!</p>
<p class="int-question"><strong>Gyrus:</strong> Is there not a hint, at least, of the unifying &#8216;spiritual&#8217; urge in looking for a &#8220;common humanity&#8221;&#8212;with current academia, perhaps ironically, serving &#8216;soul&#8217; in its desire to retain distinctions, to emphasize particular characteristics of specific cultures, to champion multiplicity?</p>
<p><strong>Patrick:</strong> Yes. And yes.</p>
<p class="int-question"><strong>Gyrus:</strong> In your work you make very lucid, revealing comparisons between tribal initiatory structures and spontaneous modern experiences such as UFO abductions. Could you discuss these associations and what fascinates you about them?</p>
<p><strong>Patrick:</strong> Yeah, the Attack of the Little Grey Men.  Wasn&#8217;t that interesting folklore? With all the requisite memorates and fabulates, as those annoying folklorists with their quasi-scientific jargon call them&#8230;</p>
<p>Like anyone fascinated by UFOlore, I racked my brains to come up with some sort of reason why 80% of all Americans (it seemed at the time) were being snatched into circular uniformly-lit &#8216;spaceships&#8217; and subjected to bestial probings by those truly frightening little greys with their now-iconic all-black eyes (the cover of Whitley Streiber&#8217;s book [<i>Communion</i>] still gives me the willies).</p>
<p>One of the theories I liked was that they were the demonic spirits of the millions of aborted foetuses getting their revenge!  But it just seemed to me that what these abductions most resembled was the painful initiation of shamans by daimons, and, indeed, the imitative initiation of pubescent boys who are abducted at dead of night by masked elders posing as daimons, and subjected to scarring and circumcision etc. before being given secret knowledge.  I was also struck by a remark of Jung&#8217;s&#8212;that the unconscious shows to us the face that we show to it.  And I wondered if the &#8216;greys&#8217; were probing us in a heartless empirical way in some parody of the way we investigate Nature.</p>
<p>Anyway, there is no &#8216;explanation&#8217; for the widespread abduction epidemic&#8212;it is not a problem to be solved but rather a mystery to be entered&#8212;but I gave it my best shot vis-a-vis finding anthropological and Jungian parallels.  While I liked the late John Mack, the Harvard Professor who researched abductions, I didn&#8217;t like the way his latest book seemed to &#8216;work&#8217; with abductees, hypnotising them etc., until the &#8216;greys&#8217; became sort of relatively benign harbingers of, yes, you guessed it, the imminent ecological crisis&#8212;thus effectively repressing the idea that unless we find news ways of initiating ourselves into the Otherworld, we run the risk of being forcibly initiated, against our will, by daimons who have become apparently demonic by virture of our neglect of them.</p>
<p class="int-question"><strong>Gyrus:</strong> What is your fantasy for more conscious initiatory rituals in our society&#8212;or do you think society is now too unwieldy to manage like this, and true initiations will now continue to be emergent phenomena?</p>
<p><strong>Patrick:</strong>  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the need for initiation has become urgent.  It seems to be, after all, a universal requisite&#8212;there&#8217;s no society which doesn&#8217;t or which didn&#8217;t at one time attach the highest importance to initiation.  So, now that we&#8217;ve abandoned formal rites, we must expect to pay the price: a catastrophic severance of relations with the Otherworld, for example, and a lack of certainty about identity and adulthood among youth.</p>
<p>Luckily youth has its own means of self-initiation&#8212;drugs, piercings, raves, Mediterranean &#8216;holidays&#8217; etc.&#8212;but these can all of course be merely destructive if they are not performed in a sacred context, the ritual pain succeeded by revelations of the tribal secrets and myths.  I think children probably long for initiation if reality TV is any guide: whenever they&#8217;re subjected to real hardship in a meaningful context&#8212;<i>Brat Camp</i> etc.!&#8212;they respond gratefully.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think what religion is doing, adopting secular liberal caring values where everything must be comfortable and all suffering is medicalised.  The whole point of religion is not to provide a cure for suffering but, as Simone Weil says, a supernatural use for it. Only suffering can provide the deep energy required for self-transformation.  (Luckily, once again, there&#8217;s often enough suffering to go round in the course of everyday life&#8212;illness, bereavment, unhappiness in love, whatever&#8212;but it&#8217;s usually treated when it could instead be pressed into the service of initiation.)</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m beginning to rant now.  It&#8217;s just that i&#8217;m furious at the deprivation of meaning, enchantment and transformation that young people suffer at the hands of our culture.</p>
<p class="int-question"><strong>Gyrus:</strong> What were your most significant initiations into your relationship to daimonic reality?</p>
<p><strong>Patrick:</strong> Well, you know, I was brought up believing in Spiritualism because my grandmother was a first-class medium and my mother a believer, who, wherever she lived, always managed to dig up a local medium / healer to talk to the dead or cure us kids of our childish malaises.</p>
<p>Meanwhile I was very aware of my Dad&#8217;s psychic powers, which he played down, even denied, having made of himself a hard-headed business man.  But he saw the fairies twice as a young man in his native Ireland&#8212;all the more surprising because he was Anglo-Irish, the son of a Church of Ireland rector, who was not supposed to see or believe in the Sidhe.</p>
<p>So I grew up with the supernatural and, instead of forgetting or rubbishing it all once I was exposed to education, I always tried to fit it in&#8212;ultimately this meant writing my own book.  I was lucky at Cambridge to be supervised by the great Shakespeare and Yeats scholar, Tom Henn, who was another Anglo-Irishman.  He, too, believed in the supernatural&#8212;he experienced Panic while fishing a stream in Galway, and heard the banshee keening on a train to Birmingham (his brother died at that moment)&#8212;and he showed me rare books from the Order of the Golden Dawn, and generally encouraged me to use my beliefs, as Yeats had, to make sense of the world.</p>
<p>However, my real initiation didn&#8217;t come until I immersed myself in alchemy for my book, <a href="/library/patrick-harpur/mercurius-the-marriage-of-heaven-and-earth/"><i>Mercurius; or, the Marriage of Heaven and Earth</i></a>.  I thought I could crack alchemy in three months, but, three years later, I lifted my half-crazed, tear-stained face up off the <i>n</i>th Latin manuscript in the British Library and realised I&#8217;d never &#8216;crack&#8217; it.  For every book about alchemy perforce becomes a book <em>of</em> alchemy, and I had felt the hand of Mercurius move my hand and what I wrote didn&#8217;t come from me&#8212;I felt the centre of my volition shift and I was no longer myself.  This, I suppose, is the central prerequisite of initiation: the awful uprooting as the Muse, or personal daimon, or self, ruthlessly seizes you and usurps the ego.  From then on, I had a new topsy-turvy and Hermetic perspective on things, out of which I wrote <i>Daimonic Reality</i> and <a href="/library/patrick-harpur/the-philosophers-secret-fire-a-history-of-the-imagination/"><i>The Philosophers&#8217; Secret Fire</i></a>.</p>
<p class="int-question"><strong>Gyrus:</strong> To apply Jung to his own lineage, what do you see as the Shadow side of the tradition of alchemy and Neoplatonism that you subscribe to? How do you relate to it?</p>
<p><strong>Patrick:</strong> Your question is a difficult one.  It may be an incoherent one.  I don&#8217;t know that I can answer it.</p>
<p>I want to say that alchemy and Hermetico-neoplatonism (if such a thing exists) is itself the turbulent mercurial underground stream which shadows the orderly canals of religion and reason, welling up in times of transition and crisis to form the flood of culture we have called the Renaissance or Romanticism. That&#8217;s to say, in itself, the &#8216;perennial philosophy&#8217; I favour includes its own shadow, like the Nigredo of the alchemists.  That&#8217;s part of its great attraction: it is concerned with wholeness and with realising the totality of the psyche; it holds the great dividing forces within psychic life&#8212;forces I&#8217;ve called &#8216;soul&#8217; and &#8216;spirit&#8217; (tho&#8217;, pace Nietszche, Apollonian and Dionysian would do)&#8212;holds them in tension so that nothing is repressed and no shadow forms.</p>
<p>I think Jung said that Christ redeemed mankind but left out Nature, which groaneth and travaileth. Nature is therefore Christianity&#8217;s shadow.  It was part of the alchemists&#8217; (unconscious) purpose to complete the work of redemption by raising up Nature.  But in a sense this is no more than poetry does&#8212;there&#8217;s something redemptive about all great poetry, isn&#8217;t there?  Poetry, like alchemy, doesn&#8217;t merely copy Nature (as Plato feared), but (as Plotinus says) completes the work of the Creator by returning to the original <i>archai</i> or archetypes which the Demiurge looked into in order to make the world.</p>
<p>The whole point of a daimonic philosophy (to put it another way) is that it doesn&#8217;t subscribe to the brilliant Apollonic lighting effects of monotheism and, later, rationalism which are themselves intrinsically shadow-forming&#8212;soul is always neglected and forced into the darkness underground. Rather it operates in lunatic twilight, between the light and the dark, where it is half light and half shadow, and so the problem of &#8216;the shadow&#8217; is not so much resolved as dissolved altogether&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry, gone off the point a bit. Or have I?</p>
<p class="int-question"><strong>Gyrus:</strong>  I get the idea of this hidden tradition &#8220;containing its own shadow&#8221;. But surely there&#8217;s a shadow that&#8217;s missed by everything that can be called a &#8220;tradition&#8221;. With alchemy and Neoplatonism, I wonder if social concerns, engagement with communal politics and so on, the whole quotidian world of people and their mundane necessities&#8212;isn&#8217;t this neglected by most exponents of the tradition? Maybe Blake manages to transcend even that&#8230; But the modern occult / hermetic &#8220;scene&#8221; can be woefully insular. And I look at the arc of James Hillman&#8217;s work, and it seems his merging of the concepts of <i>Anima Mundi</i> with things like urban architecture and environmental concerns came quite late in his career, like the &#8220;real world&#8221; out there was the last bastion. Of course he had his Neoplatonic take on it&#8212;that we repress beauty, and our environment suffers from this&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Patrick: </strong> Yes, I take your point about there always having to be a shadow of some sort&#8212;in the case of the Neoplatonic tradition, the quotidian world etc. I don&#8217;t know, but I always thought that that was something those guys took in their stride.  When you read Porphyry&#8217;s life of Plotinus, you don&#8217;t get the sense that he was in any way sealed off from the world or sitting, Hindu-like and silent, in a sacred grove, or living in an academic ivory tower etc.  Rather the reverse&#8212;like most mytics worth their salt, he seems to have been embedded in life and as pragmatic as St Teresa, who achieved union with the Godhead only to burst out of the convent and found many more, her letters full of practicality and worldly advice.</p>
<p>I dare say periods of retreat were necessary for the Hermetic lads, during stages of their advancement&#8212;as it is for us all.  But I think they attended to God&#8217;s immanence in the world, and hence to the world, just as much as to His transcendent aspect.  They had both perspectives, and held that contradiction in tension by means of Blakean &#8216;double vision&#8217;.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;m only guessing.  But I&#8217;m probably, as so often, right.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul&#8217;s just given the thumbs-up to my posting my MP3 of his <a href="http://www.metageum.org/">Metageum</a> talk on archaeoacoustics. The field&#8212;which looks at the acoustic aspects of prehistory, often via <i>in situ</i> experimentation with sonics at archaeological sites&#8212;is in its early stages; Paul compares it to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeoastronomy">archaeoastronomy</a> in the 1960s. While it loses a little for not having the visual element of Paul&#8217;s presentation, this talk is a good intro:</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debunking is a delicate process. At least, it should be.</p>
<p>All too often a &#8220;myth&#8221; (in the modern sense of a false image of something) is debunked in a way that is almost wilfully blind to the baby in the bathwater. Naturally, the encrusted mental habits that this kind of myth embodies, often bonded tightly together with the sticky glue of wishful thinking, need a jolt of force to be loosened up. But it&#8217;s often the case that people take this need for a bit of a conceptual shove as a license to instigate some kind of dramatic about-turn.</p>
<p>A recent case in point has been challenges made to the myth of the &#8220;noble savage&#8221;. Experimental psychologist and neo-Darwinist stalwart Steven Pinker, in &#8216;<a href="http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/pinker07/pinker07_index.html">A History of Violence</a>&#8216;, sets about demolishing the idea that modernity and industrialism has led us into a mire of violence with the claim that on the larger scales of history, human violence has in fact <em>decreased</em>. Yet his claims, on further examination, seem to rest on quite a selective perception of human history. While the evidence that the past few millennia have seen brutality to rival the 20th century is convincing in important ways, the evidence about the bulk of the human story &#8211; the hundreds of millennia prior to the rise of agriculture &#8211; is shaky at best. When anthropological evidence from contemporary forager societies is wheeled in to back this evidence up, it is conveniently forgotten that most such evidence is looking at societies that have been very recently decimated by European diseases, conflicts and technologies. It&#8217;s like beating someone up and branding them as vicious when they fight back.</p>
<p>I noted in <a href="/archives/2007/05/the-monkey-psyche/">a recent post</a> how Howard Bloom had fudged the terminology of &#8220;war&#8221; and &#8220;violence&#8221; when trying to debunk Richard Leakey&#8217;s claims about the absence of war among the !Kung in southern Africa. The evidence there involved a similar refusal to look closer at what these statistics of violence among contemporary foragers actually means in context.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll not elaborate any further, because the point of this post is purely to direct people to <a href="http://anthropik.com/2007/05/the-savages-are-truly-noble/">an essential piece by Jason Godesky over at Anthropik.com</a>. Jason details the history of the &#8220;noble savage&#8221; myth, drawing partly on <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0520226100/">a book by Ter Ellingson</a>, but delving deep and wide into his own very capable research. He deals with five broad &#8220;sub-types&#8221; of the myth: The Ecological Saint, The Gentle People, The Honest Injun, The Super Human, and The Wise Indian. In each case, he maintains a steady grip on any and all harsh realities to be faced about primitive life, but also refuses to see-saw over to the other side. To my mind, this makes for a much more effective debunking of the myth, insofar as it <em>is</em> a myth.</p>
<p>There are crucial realities that we&#8217;ve been struggling with for 500 years now in what the European collision with non-agricultural cultures has reminded us about being human. Not all of it&#8217;s pretty, which is why the exaggerated Romantic myths about primeval innocence serve us badly. Yet much of it casts grave doubts on the modern project of technological progress &#8211; which is why the ill-conceived or disingenuous debunking favoured by otherwise dazzling thinkers such as Pinker and Bloom is to be held as suspect.</p>
<p>Godesky probably doesn&#8217;t &#8220;solve&#8221; all the arguments in the debate, but he&#8217;s created a precious reference point for anyone trying to rescue the kernels of truth buried in the myth.</p>
<p><a href="http://anthropik.com/2007/05/the-savages-are-truly-noble/">Check it out.</a></p>
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